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Tell me y'all's opinions:
Shouldn't the default smile "🙂" be listed first in any and every emoji list? Why is it #20 on the Windows emoji panel?! And 12th on this forum software?! And 12th on Facebook?! IT'S THE O.G. -- WHY ISN'T IT FIRST??
:lol::rofl::lol: Because that's a funny opinion.
 

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I just think it has to do with character sorting. As in alphanumeric order.
 

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I just think it has to do with character sorting. As in alphanumeric order.
Yeah that's probably true.
But who sorted them like this in the first place?
Here's the unicode block of the main faces:
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Default smile guy comes after CATS?? What's going on here??
 
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emoji originally come from japan, whereas emoticons, such as : ), come from america and britain.
in western culture, people usually look to the mouth to register emotion, whereas in japanese culture they usually look to the eyes, thus why the happy kaomoji (also a japanese invention) are usually some variation on ^_^ (smiling eyes, neutral mouth) as opposed to the happy emoticons, which are some variation on : ) (neutral eyes, smiling mouth).
similarly, the standard emoji (as ordered in the original CJK blocks before unicode absorbed them into it) were ordered in a japanese fashion, by people in japan. and to those japanese programmers, 🙂 was seen as a false or passive aggressive smile, as opposed to something like ☺ or 😌, seen as real smiles with their emotive eyes.
before adding CJK into unicode, various preceding extensions of ASCII that included a smiley face usually only included two, equivalents of : ) and : (, having been designed by people in america and britain.
those are actually still around, however due to the much more common usage of the emoji block online, many text editors replace them with the emojis 🙂 and ☹ for compatibility (and because having your smiles colored in wasn't ever done with any other versions until emoji were added, and still isn't done with any non-emoji blocks). but the ordering wasn't changed, mainly due to not really having a good reason to alter the block from the original japanese form.
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emoji originally come from japan, whereas emoticons, such as : ), come from america and britain.
in western culture, people usually look to the mouth to register emotion, whereas in japanese culture they usually look to the eyes, thus why the happy kaomoji (also a japanese invention) are usually some variation on ^_^ (smiling eyes, neutral mouth) as opposed to the happy emoticons, which are some variation on : ) (neutral eyes, smiling mouth).
similarly, the standard emoji (as ordered in the original CJK blocks before unicode absorbed them into it) were ordered in a japanese fashion, by people in japan. and to those japanese programmers, 🙂 was seen as a false or passive aggressive smile, as opposed to something like ☺ or 😌, seen as real smiles with their emotive eyes.
before adding CJK into unicode, various preceding extensions of ASCII that included a smiley face usually only included two, equivalents of : ) and : (, having been designed by people in america and britain.
those are actually still around, however due to the much more common usage of the emoji block online, many text editors replace them with the emojis 🙂 and ☹ for compatibility (and because having your smiles colored in wasn't ever done with any other versions until emoji were added, and still isn't done with any non-emoji blocks). but the ordering wasn't changed, mainly due to not really having a good reason to alter the block from the original japanese form.
~javen
That's a good explanation, thank you!
 

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The last statement is false.
These statements are true.
The color blue is your favorite color.
 

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correct!
~javen(?)
 

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The ninth letter of the modern English alphabet. The emotion aroused by something awe-inspiring, astounding, or surprising. Which thing or which particular one of many. Used to express desire or intent. To come to pass. In case that; granting, allowing, or supposing that; -- introducing a condition or supposition. The ninth letter of the modern English alphabet. Simple past tense and past participle of swap. Used before singular or plural nouns and noun phrases that denote particular, specified persons or things. A sound or a combination of sounds, or its representation in writing or printing, that symbolizes and communicates a meaning and may consist of a single morpheme or of a combination of morphemes. Not new; secondhand. inch The plural of this. A grammatical unit that is syntactically independent and has a subject that is expressed or, as in imperative sentences, understood and a predicate that contains at least one finite verb.In the company of; accompanying. Used as a modifier before a noun. The ordinal number matching the number one in a series. To deliver googlies. A statement of the meaning of a word, phrase, or term, as in a dictionary entry.
 

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The ninth letter of the modern English alphabet. The emotion aroused by something awe-inspiring, astounding, or surprising. Which thing or which particular one of many. Used to express desire or intent. To come to pass. In case that; granting, allowing, or supposing that; -- introducing a condition or supposition. The ninth letter of the modern English alphabet. Simple past tense and past participle of swap. Used before singular or plural nouns and noun phrases that denote particular, specified persons or things. A sound or a combination of sounds, or its representation in writing or printing, that symbolizes and communicates a meaning and may consist of a single morpheme or of a combination of morphemes. Not new; secondhand. inch The plural of this. A grammatical unit that is syntactically independent and has a subject that is expressed or, as in imperative sentences, understood and a predicate that contains at least one finite verb.In the company of; accompanying. Used as a modifier before a noun. The ordinal number matching the number one in a series. To deliver googlies. A statement of the meaning of a word, phrase, or term, as in a dictionary entry.
a strange or remarkable person, thing, or event. used in notices or slogans forbidding or rejecting something specified. measuring a greater distance from end to end.

used in the normal subject or object position when a more specific subject or object is given later in the sentence. qualify or be accepted as; acquire the status of.
used to emphasize that the following description applies without qualification.
real; genuine.
actual; precise (used to emphasize the exact identity of a particular person or thing).
dealing with technological advances which do not contravene currently accepted scientific laws or principles. approaching or reaching (a particular condition). a person's interpretation of something.
(in metaphysics) the subject or object of self-consciousness; the ego. used to express interest, surprise, or doubt. (of a person or thing) having similar qualities or characteristics to another person or thing. used before the surname of the chief of a Scottish or Irish clan. at or to a considerable distance or extent; far. used to refer to any person in general. the value or advantage of something. googlies.
the imaginary quantity equal to the square root of minus one. A disorder characterized by the presence of two or more distinct personality states. a Boolean operator with only one variable that has the value one when the variable is zero and vice versa. regard or perceive as having a specified characteristic. used with a gesture to indicate size. used with a past participle to form the passive mood. the sixth note of the diatonic scale of C major. a command, password, or signal.

the chemical element of atomic number 53, a nonmetallic element forming black crystals and a violet vapor. direct one's mind toward someone or something; use one's mind actively to form connected ideas. used in exclamations to address one or more people. used to emphasize to a listener how striking an event is or was. tell or arrange for something to be done. take or consume (an amount) from a limited supply. change from one condition, form, or state to another. the capacity of an instrument or device for making images distinct in outline. expressing passage or trajectory across an area. perform (an action) at a particular moment.
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Used to refer to that one previously mentioned. Used of a nonhuman entity; an animate being whose sex is unspecified, unknown, or irrelevant; a group of objects or individuals; an action; or an abstraction. The third person singular of the substantive verb be, in the indicative mood, present tense. See be. To the amount or degree expressed or understood; to such an extent. Used to refer to the one or ones being addressed. To utter aloud; pronounce. Gold, represented in heraldic engraving by a white field sprinkled with small dots. To put a question to. Not new; secondhand. In a direction toward so as to reach. To set forth in words; state. The act of affirming or the state of being affirmed; assertion. The act of agreeing. Characterized by or displaying certainty, acceptance, or affirmation. The act of confirming. Gold, represented in heraldic engraving by a white field sprinkled with small dots. To give assent, as to the proposal of another; agree: synonym: assent.
It is so; as you say or ask. Used to express affirmation, agreement, positive confirmation, or consent.
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:biganimeeyes: Seems more chaotic than lawful. :eveywtf: Seems more neutral than good. :westreconsiders: Seems more lawful and neutral than chaotic and good.
:ohohoho: Seems more evil than neutral. :amberyolo: Seems more good than neutral. :HEH: Idk what to do with this.
:NEOOWW: Seems more neutral or chaotic rather than lawful. :haveanicecream: Definitely not evil. :robotwest: Robots literally can only execute code. LAWFUL!
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:internalstruggle::emoevey::thisisntright: are all neutral,
:BWAAOO: Is obviously chaotic. :whoareyou: Seems about right. :wha: Seems more neutral rather than chaotic.
:fliesaway: Certainly not evil and might be neutral. :notokay: seems out of place. :swag: Now that's just swag.
 

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@Avidro
:biganimeeyes: Seems more chaotic than lawful. :eveywtf: Seems more neutral than good. :westreconsiders: Seems more lawful and neutral than chaotic and good.
:ohohoho: Seems more evil than neutral. :amberyolo: Seems more good than neutral. :HEH: Idk what to do with this.
:NEOOWW: Seems more neutral or chaotic rather than lawful. :haveanicecream: Definitely not evil. :robotwest: Robots literally can only execute code. LAWFUL!
@Zules
:internalstruggle::emoevey::thisisntright: are all neutral,
:BWAAOO: Is obviously chaotic. :whoareyou: Seems about right. :wha: Seems more neutral rather than chaotic.
:fliesaway: Certainly not evil and might be neutral. :notokay: seems out of place. :swag: Now that's just swag.
We... we both didn't understand the assignment
 

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We... we both didn't understand the assignment
No. I misunderstood your replies. You were obviously not going for alignment charts. I apologize for that.
 

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No. I misunderstood your replies. You were obviously not going for alignment charts. I apologize for that.
I'm not sure what @Avidro was going for but I was trying to unlock the mysteries of your initial post.
I thought it was simply that every emote had to be a different character.
 

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I'm not sure what @Avidro was going for but I was trying to unlock the mysteries of your initial post.
I thought it was simply that every emote had to be a different character.
I also put that. :3
 

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I was just trying to tell the story of my thought process in emote form :robinpaddleball:
 
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