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I must confess, I know very little about cricket. Would you care to elaborate on the subject, @BleepBloopBeep?
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This may take a while so I'll respond to the I'm excited thread, explain my limited cricket knowledge and why I think they occupy a similar space in their respective sporting pantheons
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Correct me if I'm wrong then. The National league and American league form MLB. They have different rules because one league is older than the other. I would assume that was also a marketing move at the time, more chances of big plays from designated hitters leading to a more 'offence' based game (I don't know which side counts as attack but its usually the one that scores soo..). Then best record from either league gets the advantage of home field? and thus their rules first allowing the chance to take an early lead.
With regards to salaries its rare for any sportsperson to make the money of the top american leagues due to the structure they have in place and the relative size of their fan-base, (whilst I know not everyone is a sports fan theirs 300m people in america for 30 baseball teams) so only top European football teams can afford (what I would call ludicrous wages). As for cricket its most popular form sees wages of 2m a year in the IPL (Indian Premier league) and in general that region of the world is where its most popular.
WHAT IS CRICKET?
The basic game requires: 2 teams consisting of 11 players that have varying roles, 2 stumps (three sticks with a little stick across the top) 22 yards apart with a line drawn about 2 yards across to mark the crease, the pitch is usually a circumference of about 200m though it does vary and 2 umpires one at each wicket (4 for internationals)
Each team takes turns batting and fielding, the batting team has to try to score runs whilst the fielding team try to stop them by catching, bowling or running out the batsmen (hitting the stumps whilst the batsmen is away from the crease). Unlike baseball you have 2 batsmen on the field at a time (one at each end of the crease). A run occurs when a batsmen hits the ball with their bat and the two batsmen at the wicket mange to successfully run to the other end. The batsmen can run as many times as they like before being given out. If the ball crosses the boundary rope after it has bounced at least once from leaving the bat then 4 runs are given. If the ball goes over the boundary rope without bouncing then 6 runs are awarded to the batting team. They can be awarded for poor bowling too, if the ball is wide or the bowler oversteps the wicket. Bowling is done from one end of the wicket (the rectangle in the image above) to the other. There's six bowls to an over with an additional bowl added if a bowl is errant.
Then just if this wasn't long or confusing enough there's not just one form there's currently 3 different types:
Test/First Class- Each team gets two innings (bats twice) until all batsmen are 'out' or the run count of the team who batted first is reached. (The teams alternate innings). This form can take up to 4 days.
One day- Each team has 50 overs to score as many runs as possible unless they get bowled out. Takes 7-9 hrs.
T20- Just 20 overs to score as many runs as possible. Takes about 3hrs.
I say they're similar because they both suffer from the increasingly fast paced lives we live nowdays and seem antiquated relative to other sports.
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With regards to salaries its rare for any sportsperson to make the money of the top american leagues due to the structure they have in place and the relative size of their fan-base, (whilst I know not everyone is a sports fan theirs 300m people in america for 30 baseball teams) so only top European football teams can afford (what I would call ludicrous wages). As for cricket its most popular form sees wages of 2m a year in the IPL (Indian Premier league) and in general that region of the world is where its most popular.
WHAT IS CRICKET?
The basic game requires: 2 teams consisting of 11 players that have varying roles, 2 stumps (three sticks with a little stick across the top) 22 yards apart with a line drawn about 2 yards across to mark the crease, the pitch is usually a circumference of about 200m though it does vary and 2 umpires one at each wicket (4 for internationals)
Each team takes turns batting and fielding, the batting team has to try to score runs whilst the fielding team try to stop them by catching, bowling or running out the batsmen (hitting the stumps whilst the batsmen is away from the crease). Unlike baseball you have 2 batsmen on the field at a time (one at each end of the crease). A run occurs when a batsmen hits the ball with their bat and the two batsmen at the wicket mange to successfully run to the other end. The batsmen can run as many times as they like before being given out. If the ball crosses the boundary rope after it has bounced at least once from leaving the bat then 4 runs are given. If the ball goes over the boundary rope without bouncing then 6 runs are awarded to the batting team. They can be awarded for poor bowling too, if the ball is wide or the bowler oversteps the wicket. Bowling is done from one end of the wicket (the rectangle in the image above) to the other. There's six bowls to an over with an additional bowl added if a bowl is errant.
Then just if this wasn't long or confusing enough there's not just one form there's currently 3 different types:
Test/First Class- Each team gets two innings (bats twice) until all batsmen are 'out' or the run count of the team who batted first is reached. (The teams alternate innings). This form can take up to 4 days.
One day- Each team has 50 overs to score as many runs as possible unless they get bowled out. Takes 7-9 hrs.
T20- Just 20 overs to score as many runs as possible. Takes about 3hrs.
I say they're similar because they both suffer from the increasingly fast paced lives we live nowdays and seem antiquated relative to other sports.
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The rivalries run deep there's an annual competition between England and Australia called the Ashes and the trophy is a little urn full of the ashes of the English stump because for some reason the Aussies wanted to burn them.
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Suddenly, that part about cricket from the third Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy book makes a lot more sense.
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The top domestic level is county based. There's a rivalry that dates back to the war of the roses (Lancashire and Yorkshire)
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Rivalries are fun! Round these parts, we have the Houston Astros/Texas Rangers rivalry (the Rangers play in Arlington, near Dallas). We even have our own "trophy" for whoever wins the season series (i.e. wins the most games against the other team in a season). It's called the Silver Boot, appropriately enough. Astros have won it for a few years now, but we were pretty terrible in the not-so-distant past, when the Rangers would routinely kick our butts.
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There's nothing in sport like a derby game, personally I think America looses out a bit with the distance between teams. There were 6 matches with local rivals for my football/soccer team last year (all based within 10 miles of one another). The atmosphere is something else because its bragging rights over people you work with everyday, and it evokes a level of passion you don't find too often.
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They're just used as a way to count bowls and calculate run rates, 50 overs sounds much less than 300 bowls. In test matches they have innings like baseball but it requires 10 outs (with no limits to the number of overs) then you swap sides.
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Straight is in line with the wicket and square is measured across the wicket. I think its relative to the batsman, hitting straight from the crease is over the other stump and square is to the side (like a square pass in football/soccer is to the side).
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Link: "Pitch (baseball) - Wikipedia" has the list for you!
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Have you ever played it? I don't like it as a spectator sport, but on a hot summers day with good company it's a lot of fun (playing with 1 stump and rotating batsmen [using a tennis ball means you can play just about anywhere]). As a sport its not changed a great deal since the 1770's which in one way is commendable, but also means it feels outdated.
Do you like/participate in any other sports?
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Martial Arts! In elementary school, I learnt the basics to karate. From early high school until maybe a year ago I had been learning Brazillian Jujitsu, and my Grandpa used to own an old book detailing Taekwondo, since it's a prerequisite for all Korean males who do their mandatory 2 years of military service. All three styles have sort of merged into this one mixed style, with focus on bjj since it's the one I have the most training in.